Your letters and comments
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September 2010
comment from local Architect - click
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24 November
How one local resident responded to the Council's questionnaire postcard
What do you like about the masterplan?
It contains proposals for redeveloping MOD brownfield land (as defined in PPG3) if it becomes vacant. It contains cycle paths and a museum. All can be undertaken now without overexpansion.
What do you not like about the masterplan?
It fails all of the Government's original eco-town criteria. It disguises proposals for gross overexpansion onto greenfield sites, including playing fields, Hogmoor Inclosure, Standford Farm in an adjoining ancient settlment within the neighbouring parish of Headley, BOSC woodland and other MOD green areas. It contains many promised benefits, some of which are only consequent on overexpansion, with no confirmed funding. It fails to reflect the local community's preferences. Average housing density is excessive and fails to respect existing character. It accepts there is no possibility of achieving zero/low carbon footprint across the whole town. There is nothing "eco" about it that will not be applicable to all new UK housing and development. It implies controlling behaviour and lifestyle for existing residents that will not apply to other settlements. It envisages unachievable car use, transport and job targets. Its fundamentals, such as quantum of housing, have been reached and put to government in secret and excluded from public consultation. It threatens the rural quality, lifestyle and biodiversity of the whole town. It extinguishes agricultural land, excludes provision for locally grown produce and allotments and fails to address the problem of long distance food miles or the stranglehold of the entire food chain by the big supermarkets. It will blight the town for decades and act as a disincentive to people to move to the area. It fails to respect or preserve the integrity, environment or heritage of surrounding settlements. It fails to substantiate claims of 'critical mass' needed to bring new facilities many of which have been provided at public expense in nearby towns of comparable size. It fails to indicate amount or sources of funding. It fails to identify all historic structures. It fails to commit to a "jobs before housing" policy.
How do you think the masterplan can be improved?
Tear it up and start again from a position of brownfield replacement and planned incremental growth only, up to 2000 new homes with associated infrastructure/facilities already present in comparable settlements. Retain and recondition if necessary the existing Mill Chase School.
How much information have you seen?
All + read and researched extensively from readily available govenment, local authority, stakeholder and international material, consulted with hundreds of townspeople, consultants, politicians, EHDC, other eco-town groups, media and professionals.
Any other comments?
The plan is unsustainable and harmful to the rural community, wider area, region and green movement. Its failure will set joined up green thinking back considerably. The entire process has been misconceived, mismanaged and misleading. It should have been non-partisan from the start, reflecting the genuine aspirations and concerns of local people. Instead it has been "top down," driven largely by remotely controlled haggling between EHDC Defence Estates, Hampshire County Council, government departments, quangos and distant official stakeholders. Greatest weight should be given to local community concerns.
In general do you support the masterplan?
NO
2 September
Here's a song I made up while thinking about the fate of some people who will have no choice
ECO TOWN BLUES
I knew a gal named Peggy Sue
Looking for a home, didn’t have a clue
They sent her to a place not far away
But now she’s broken hearted
‘Cause once they got her started
They left her there and now she has to stay
Chorus
She’s got the eco-town blues
She’s got the eco-town blues
They told her once, they told her twice
It’s gonna be so awfully nice-
She’s got the eco-town blues
Well Peggy got her an eco flat
With a little green door and a welcome mat
She thought the top floor view was really swell
But soon the kids were crying
And there was no denying
She wished she could be free from eco-hell
Cho.
Now Peggy waits in the wind and rain
For the eco-bus that never came
The eco-shops they built are empty too
So now’s the time to worry
This ain’t no fairy story
The eco-cops are comin’ after you
Cho.
From a resident
I have lived in Bordon since 1970 and have seen quite a few changes, but not many for the better. The planning has done nothing to give it any character. The last time we had a "housing explosion" trees were chopped down in all directions, and houses were thrown up everywhere. You hardly dared to go out in case someone built a house in your garden while you were gone! One wondered where it was all going to stop.
No one considered the roads. We were promised lots of things if we had more houses, but very little materialised. The Forest Centre was built, as someone decided that was the centre of Bordon, but no room was left for it to be extended. We have very few shops there. No one thought about how all the big lorries were going to get in or out. We are lucky to have Tesco and now Wilkinsons, but not much else. We couldn't have a Sports Centre, it had to be incorporated into Mill Chase School. Now, wonder of wonders, the "powers that be" want to foist an Eco Town on us. They tell us that if we have 5,000 or so more houses, we will get the facilities we need. Do they think we came up the river on the last lily? Does Eco mean the houses will be built out of egg boxes and cardboard cartons? Living in Bordon without a car you cannot get anywhere. Do they think people are going to give up their cars? I don't think so. Some won't even walk their children to school, even though it would do them and the children good. They are all busy people. Speaking for myself, I would hate to see Bordon disappear under concrete, and the Army can stay as long as they want to. At least the areas round the Army Quarters are always tidy, and it is only the Army that keeps a lot of our green areas from being built on. I used to go to a lunch club at BOSC, and that is a lovely spot there. After lunch we used to watch the cricket and archery. It is very peaceful down there and I wouldn't like to see that destroyed. We used to see deer in the woods at the back of Savile Crescent, but since the houses have been built in Chase Road, Lindford, we don't see them. We are always told that the wildlife habitat will not be affected, but it always is. I have never wanted to live in a town, and I certainly do not want 5,000 more people. Ann Budd, Bordon Resident |
20 July
I don't think that Liphook and the surrounding villages know just what will hit them with this eco-town proposal. A campaign to target them with the facts prior to these new consultations taking place will be a good thing. The consultations will no doubt take on the same positive ring that all the others have done with no mention of the adverse impact (perhaps even with lifesize pictures of Ferris Cowper in celebratory stance). If a consultation is not to be biased then opposing groups should also have an opportunity to represent themselves at these meetings to ensure ALL of the facts are made available.
16 July
Having just read the article about EcoTown parking in the Daily Express (16 July Page 39) I was totally disgusted and alarmed at the figures it claims will be charged to residents for parking at their properties. Equally alarming is the fact that there appears to be plans to have large car parking areas on the outskirts of town to negate the need for residential parking. Surely, common sense should show this will be a magnet for vehicle theives from all areas to come here and steal/damage our unattended vehicles, which WILL increase our insurance premiums for this area as our vehicles will be unattended for a majority of the day/night and also left away from your property, increasing the risk factors that already play such a large factor in our over-inflated policies.
28 April
...of the 5,500 new homes to be built 40% will be Social (ie Council Houses) and Affordable (ie shared equity / low cost)homes. We need to look after the less well off in our own area first. But, if you replace the term "Eco Town" with "New Town" you will have the same situation as in the 1970's when inner city social problems and poor communities were dumped into them. The following link to the Shelter web site document shows how other outside organisations view how the City Homeless are going to be housed in Bordon / Whitehill.
http://england.shelter.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0013/132610/Borden.pdf
I attended both of the Consultation Meetings and conclude that the multiple choice questionnaire that we were asked to fill in was designed so that it could only come out in favour of what the developers / government wanted us to say.
The Eco town is an experiment - if it goes wrong Bordon / Whitehill - which has only in recent years got away from the label of "Rural Slum" will be left with the mess on its doorstep for genertions to come. "Eco" is a term used by Government to dress-up / disguise / or make palatable the real horror of their intentions. The area will be plundered for profit and no benefits will be provided in order to remove social problems from inner city areas.
18 April, following Public Meeting at Community Centre:
Engineer
Although I actually returned the EHDC original survey to indicate the <2000 homes option I had remained on the fringes of the ecotown opposition until yesterday evening's presentation. I believe it achieved the fundamental aim to draw to the attention of the 'average' inhabitant of Whitehill/Bordon the shear folly of green dreams of creating a carbon neutral town within our boundaries. As an engineer I am constantly exposed to providing 'sustainable' solutions & a vast majority in reality are nothing more than token gestures or ego inflaters for certain elements of our society.
Resident
If I wanted to live in a big town I would have stayed living in Guildford but I moved down here because it's nice, please do not let these faceless people make a mess of Bordon and Whitehill and do we want another Milton Keynes? A number of proposals for traffic routes and possible centres for the town have been concocted but how many local residents will lose their homes to carry out these plans? Are there any estimates?
Resident
I am doing research into the bio-diversity of Headley Parish for the Parish plan--one of the SINCS-sites of interest for Nature Conservation is Eveley Wood which is designated by H.C.C'S Bio-diversity section as Ancient Woodland. The other SINC on the Headley/Bordon border is on the Hollywater and Walldown Roadside verges where the Notable species of the nationally scarce Green-flowered Helleborine[Epipactis phyllanthes] has been recorded. I think we will be very lucky if it has survived all the recent upheavals. I hope this information may be useful in your campaign. I also heard that Natural England were very concerned about the water supply to the proposed new eco-town, as they did not consider that the present bore-hole would be able to cope.
Civilian MOD job holder
Personally, every mention of the MOD land being vacated is a reminder to me that my job will go with the Army; indeed, not just my job, but the jobs of hundreds of MOD, Vosper Thorneycroft and Aramark employees that currently serve SEME and the Bordon Garrison. No one seems to be taking an interest in the fact that vast majority of us at SEME are under direct threat of redundancy or relocation to South Wales. I am Bordon born and bred, my family have lived here for generations, I have a young family that will all be at crucial stages in their primary and secondary education when all this comes to pass. No one seems to be fighting my corner, so it is time to stand up for myself and my community.
9 April
Having recently attending the ECO town consultation at the community centre on Saturday 4th April, we were shocked at the underhanded way in which the the questionaires answers were designed to catch out the unsuspecting by requesting you to enter your answers numerically using the highest number as your most positive choice, against all instincts, as usually most questionaires require you to enter the lowest number as your best choice. Fortunately, having realised our mistake we were able to correct our choices however, upon speaking with a representative from EHDC, we were left doubting the councils integrity as to how it planned to account for those responses where the respondents fell foul of their questionaire.
Furthermore, the facts contained within your website offer a far more in depth view of how things could turn out if this situation is allowed to proceed unchecked.
Finally, when asked about how much of the community's population had had a say in this issue we were left feeling that those who did not attend the meeting were of little importance. As such, is there any scope for actually canvassing the entire area on their veiws of the ecotown project by way of a postal vote?
9 April
Hi, I have posted a number of comments on liphook.co.uk talkback and my main concerns are as follows:
1. The use of green field sites to sustain the extra infrastructure for 5500 new families as will as the associated housing.
2. Pressure to extend the town further out once the first phase of expansion has started. Where will it stop?
3. More traffic along minor roads to Bordon from Liphook, specifically along the B3004 for access to Liphook station and commuter traffic.
4. The ridiculous notion of all employment constantly sustained within the town. How? What if skills can only be found outside? If local people leave, what's to stop out-of-towners applying for their jobs?
30 March
A local resident sent us a copy of his letter to the Bordon Herald:
Sir- I would like to commend John Ilett’s excellent letter in last week’s edition. He is not the only one to doubt East Hampshire District Council’s claim of “overwhelming public support,” or to have hit a stone wall when it comes to getting some factual answers out of the Council. For example, can they claim that 250 hectares are available for development where, by their own published figure, just 80 hectares are MoD brownfield land? Why have they never admitted that most of the few responses to their previous consultation efforts were opposed to dropping, as Ilett puts it, a population the size of Petersfield’s into Bordon? Why are EHDC and our local MP backing what every other authority and their local MP sees as a politically motivated threat to their environment? Is it a coincidence that EHDC’s target numbers coincide exactly with the Government’s minimum eco-town requirement? Where did that number come from?
Even a schoolchild could work our that if you try to cram 5,500 houses onto 80 hectares, with not a single existing building retained, you get nearly 70 units per hectare. An average occupancy of 4 per unit, gives a figure of 275 people per hectare, or an urban density comparable to many parts of Inner London. That sort of density requires most of the units to be in multi-storey flats. Add in 40% “affordable” housing and you have a recipe for a high density ghetto totally at odds with the rest of Bordon let alone any country town.
How will local roads cope with the additional 5,500 or more cars and the service vehicle trips these houses will generate, even if, as the promoters claim they will be used less? How can all this development still safeguard the protected ecology and wildlife of several sites around Bordon? The consequences of failing to insist on answers to these questions and more will be that the Bordon of the future will be worse than the Bordon of the present- only bigger.
8 March
"...People should be aware that a proposed town expansion breaks the Govenment's own eco-town rules, BUT over-expansion is still EHDC's plan regarless of what the Government may try and impose. Bordon and East Hampshire will suffer if both ideas are not forcefully rejected..."
-name witheld
6 March
"Our councillors have got it into their heads that they can do anything they please once elected, using spin and not bothering to find out what people really think. They forget that people can lose confidence in bad plans and bad government and vote them out next time..."
- name witheld
1 March
Why can't the Council come up with a plan for now instead of pinning all their hopes and ours on the army's moving out? Bordon's low grade shops and rotting High Street are because they have sat on their backsides for decades instead of acting on the pleas of our local councillors and Town Council. - name witheld
28 February
A drawn out expensive plan is not needed. Just look at Liphook. While the planners splash our money about in Bordon, Liphook got on with developing ex army land. Why can't they do that here? - name witheld